[Offintheshower] game on
Paul Seaman
paul.seaman at accesscomm.ca
Wed Feb 15 18:22:34 CST 2006
That sounds great.
My original intent behind pointing this out was to get Dan back at the break-even mark for cash and get enough guys out again so we can properly field a team (bear in mind that even 6-7 guys doesn't cover an injury or something).
Paul
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:37:48 -0600
jeremy.thorson at sasktel.sk.ca wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I don't think we really need this much debate over this.
>
> The rule was set at the beginning of the year ... Part timers pay ten bucks a game. If the new folks were there for their first game as the sixth player, then I'd be willing to waive the fee for that first game. If there was seven at that first game they played, then they pay the fee.
>
> If they show up to a second game, they are committing to the team as a part-time player and pay the ten bucks accordingly, regardless of whether there are only six players at that game or not.
>
> Once they've played at a second game (or been charged for their first, they are free to show up for as many games as they like no matter how many players we have there . . . But are subject to the same fee as any of the part time players who are listed on the roster.
>
> Just my two cents . .
>
> Jeremy
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: offintheshower-bounces
> Sent: 02/15/2006 05:25 PM
> To: offintheshower at lists.kith.ca
> Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>
> Okay what I meant by agree with you 100% was refering to the fact that it is
> better to have enough people to play than to forfit. If your buddys are
> coming out because we don't have enough people to play then yes I agree they
> should play for free, but we don't know ahead of time that we do or don't
> have enough people to play. And if they are being asked to come out on a
> regular basis then what's the difference between then and us? And
> concidering that the legue fees haven't been paid we are lucky that someone
> stepped up and was willing to shell out an extra 80$ so we can even have the
> opportunity to forfit a game. so what I'm saying is it's not the ringers
> that are allowing us to play games that we are short people but rather Dan
> who was willing to go above and beyond his share of the fees.
>
> I guess what we need to do then if we still want our ringer to come out for
> free and "save the day" then the rest of us that pay legue fees is give Dan
> another 15$ tonight and hopefully that will cover the rest of the fees
> owing.
>
> And Paul as far as who I am, maybe you need to get to know the guys you play
> football with, I've known everyone since day one (when I first met them).
> But I haven't been at the last two games cause of midterms and labs.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Paul Seaman" <paul.seaman at accesscomm.ca>
> >Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >To: "offintheshower" <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:49:08 -0600
> >
> >Farrell,
> >
> >My point was essentially that always being "on the bubble" for the amount
> >of guys we're going to have makes it important to have the right amount of
> >players coming out. For future reference, if that ever happens I am not
> >going to play with some dudes from the other team. In Dan's words, I think
> >there's a middle ground. I caught an air bag with my head back in October
> >and wasn't out for football for a few weeks, but in that position I would
> >welcome someone who was reasonably athletic to come out and take my place,
> >especially if we're sitting at the 5-7 mark for players showing up and
> >people tend to forget or be late for games. Anybody I've brought out knows
> >we're in this with cash, and they have indicated they are in on any kegs as
> >well. Shawn (for example) offered to pay $10 per game, though it seems
> >kind of strange to ask someone for $10 to play when they're the 6th player
> >and it actually looks like we should be paying them to show up. This may
> >be out of context, but when I played college ball, if I had told Frank
> >McCrystal I was too busy to make a game, he would've told me to beat it for
> >good.
> >
> >Derek and Shawn are both great guys although Shawn tends to try to run a
> >few weird ring-dang-doos and hook-and-laddy type stuff which gets annoying.
> > I think this is because he thinks he's paying $10 a game and wants to get
> >his money's worth. I dunno.
> >
> >Regardless, I will be bringing both Derek and $10 to give to Dan in lieu of
> >"fees" so that we can put this entire affair behind us and focus on winning
> >a couple of games and then intoxicating ourselves at a windup. I don't
> >think you actually agree with me 100% because the other part of my point
> >was largely that (for example) I don't remember what you look like.
> >Introduce yourself the next time you come out.
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "farrell baird" <baird1fa at hotmail.com>
> >To: <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:34 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
> >
> >
> >>Paul, I agree with you 100%, but if your friends understand that we are
> >>all paying to play, then they should assume that they also have to pay,
> >>that's just fair.
> >>
> >>Yes we sould kick the tar out of the rider fan.
> >>
> >>also keep in mind that I'm out about 80$ from the people who originally
> >>commited to playing and ordered shirts. I don't expect to get that money
> >>back. but I do expect everyone who plays with us to pay the fees
> >>associated with playing in this league.
> >>
> >> 'Farrell
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Paul Seaman" <paul.seaman at accesscomm.ca>
> >>>Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >>>To: "offintheshower" <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
> >>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:09:23 -0600
> >>>
> >>>Farrell,
> >>>
> >>>We have lost Joel and Jeff to injury and now Kei has moved and I haven't
> >>>seen Jake in a long time. Other people have wives, kids, school, work,
> >>>and other committments, so I think we have some room for replacements.
> >>>Compounding the problem is the fact that as of late (post-xmas really),
> >>>we have rarely had 6 players by gametime and generally speaking we can't
> >>>have our long snap look like a dying quail or our QB will be juggling the
> >>>ball full time.
> >>>
> >>>Both of the guys I've invited out two or three times do know that our
> >>>team (well, most of us) paid to play at the EventPlex this year and I am
> >>>sure at the very least will be paying to come in on a kegger or windup if
> >>>they're welcome to come. The $80 shortfall on Dan's part is from two
> >>>guys who didn't pay their fees to begin with and that's really who my
> >>>assessment of the situation was directed at. The key part of my message
> >>>is that we all know it's Dan's team but I don't think he should be
> >>>shouldering excessive fiscal duties.
> >>>
> >>>I like to have fun, but I also like to win and I also don't like showing
> >>>up across town and wondering if we're going to have six players or not.
> >>>When we don't have enough players show up for games (or the bare
> >>>minimum), having so-called ringers "leeching" off of the people who can't
> >>>commit to coming out are really allowing those of us who do show up all
> >>>the time to play a game and try to play it competitively.
> >>>
> >>>I welcome any comments, but this aside... I think we need to kick the tar
> >>>out of the riderfans.com team tonight...
> >>>
> >>>Paul
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "farrell baird" <baird1fa at hotmail.com>
> >>>To: <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 1:40 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I hate to be the one to bring this up but these people who are showing
> >>>>up and playing (the ringers) are they paying to play, or are they just
> >>>>leeching off those of us who are paying league fees, and are unable to
> >>>>attend? If they are not, then they should be the ones to come up with
> >>>>the extra 80$ to give dan.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'll try to be out tonight, but I have lots of labs due and a midterm on
> >>>>friday.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: Matthew.Vaughan at sasktel.sk.ca
> >>>>>Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >>>>>To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
> >>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:30:56 -0600
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I can guarantee all teams do it in this league.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Matthew Vaughan
> >>>>>eChannel sasktel.com - New Media Designer
> >>>>>777-4687
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Mike Hegedus"
> >>>>> <mikehegedus at hotm
> >>>>> ail.com> To
> >>>>> Sent by: offintheshower at lists.kith.ca
> >>>>> offintheshower-bo cc
> >>>>> unces at lists.kith.
> >>>>> ca Subject
> >>>>> Re: [Offintheshower] game on
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 02/15/2006 01:27
> >>>>> PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please respond to
> >>>>> offintheshower
> >>>>> <offintheshower at l
> >>>>> ists.kith.ca>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Then we forfeit the game and play. Everyone who did pay to be on the
> >>>>>roster agreed to come out and play. This isn't a park ball game where
> >>>>>we
> >>>>>can invite friends or friend's of friends; we ARE playing in a league
> >>>>>even
> >>>>>though most people on our team do not take it seriously or acknowledge
> >>>>>their obligations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Commonly, if a team doesn't have enough player, we borrow players from
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>other team and play. It isn't fair, even though we always lose, to
> >>>>>include
> >>>>>stats from people who don't belong on the team or in the league.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Saying that, I appreciate their commitment and paul's effort. I'm just
> >>>>>outlining rules we're obligated to.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Brian.Schmuland at sasktel.sk.ca
> >>>>> Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >>>>> To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:20:47 -0600
> >>>>> >that may be the case, however if we don't have enough people to play
> >>>>>from
> >>>>> >our own team, we'll bring some outsiders in to make up the
> >>>>>difference. I
> >>>>> >for one do not want to pay the pricey league fees to forfeit our
> >>>>>games.
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> >much rather play.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >Brian Schmuland
> >>>>> >Marketing Analyst - High Speed Internet
> >>>>> >11th Floor - 2121 Saskatchewan Dr.
> >>>>> >PH: 306-777-4227
> >>>>> >Fax: 306-777-2131
> >>>>> >E-mail: brian.schmuland at sasktel.sk.ca
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > "Mike Hegedus"
> >>>>> > <mikehegedus at hotm
> >>>>> > ail.com>
> >>>>> To
> >>>>> > Sent by: offintheshower at lists.kith.ca
> >>>>> > offintheshower-bo
> >>>>> cc
> >>>>> > unces at lists.kith.
> >>>>> > ca &nb sp;
> >>>>> Subject
> >>>>> > Re: [Offintheshower] game on
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > 02/15/2006 01:16
> >>>>> > PM
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Please respond to
> >>>>> > offintheshower
> >>>>> > <offintheshower at l
> >>>>> > ists.kith.ca>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >Paul,
> >>>>> >The only people allowed to play are those that are on the roster for
> >>>>>our
> >>>>> >team. If you invite ringers to play, we have to forfeit the game
> >>>>>whether
> >>>>> >we have enough players or not.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >Dan,
> >>>>> >I'm busy up to 10:30pm tonight; I'll doubt I'll be able to make it
> >>>>> tonight,
> >>>>> >but I'll try.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >Mike
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > From: "Paul Seaman" <paul.seaman at accesscomm.ca>
> >>>>> > Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >>>>> > To: "offintheshower" <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
> >>>>> > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:38:53 -0600
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Anybody who's going to be there tonight please reply and just say
> >>>>>"I'll
> >>>>> be
> >>>>> > there."
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I can go out and ref tonight if need be.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I have been bringing out some ringers (Derek in particular, he
> >>>>>coaches
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> > team at the EventPlex before all of our games). Usually we have
> >>>>>just
> >>>>> > barely had 6 or 7 guys out so it might be cool for everybody to
> >>>>>reply
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> > say if you're going to be there. If not then I can try to track
> >>>>>down
> >>>>> some
> >>>>> > more ringers so I can make sure that we can at least play.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I was just talking to Dan, and since the end of the season is
> >>>>>looming I
> >>>>> > thought I'd mention this to everybody since I'm sure Dan won't
> >>>>>bring it
> >>>>> up
> >>>>> > - last I heard, he's down about $80. Anybody who still hasn't,
> >>>>>get
> >>>>> your
> >>>>> > fees in. When we have our year-end windup/kegger we should
> >>>>>probably
> >>>>> also
> >>>>> > exempt him from whatever $$$ we end up collecting if he's still
> >>>>>down
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> > $$$
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Paul
> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> > From: Dan Thorson
> >>>>> > To: 'offintheshower'
> >>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:57 AM
> >>>>> > Subject: [Offintheshower] game on
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Just a reminder.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > We play tonight at 11 pm. We need a ref to volunteer to ref at 10
> >>>>>p.m.
> >>>>> -
> >>>>> > last week nobody showed up to ref and I don't want that happening
> >>>>> again.
> >>>>> > Anyone?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Also, we haven't had a good turnout for a while - it would be nice
> >>>>>to
> >>>>> get
> >>>>> > more than 6 guys out. How about this - if you are NOT coming
> >>>>>tonight,
> >>>>> let
> >>>>> > me know. I will assume everyone who doesn't answer will be there.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > We play Riderfans tonight - of all the bad teams in the league
> >>>>>they
> >>>>> beat
> >>>>> > off in the shower (by) the most. Redemption is at hand, for the
> >>>>> > travelling man.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Live Global Bid Dan Thorson
> >>>>> > Web Developer
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> >>>>> > dan at liveglobalbid.com
> >>>>> > Phone: (306) 584 1383
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
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