[Offintheshower] game on

farrell baird baird1fa at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 15 17:57:08 CST 2006


good call, that's what I've been trying to get at, just my ability to 
articulate isn't that good.


>From: jeremy.thorson at sasktel.sk.ca
>Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>To: "offintheshower" <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:37:48 -0600
>
>Hey guys,
>
>I don't think we really need this much debate over this.
>
>The rule was set at the beginning of the year ... Part timers pay ten bucks 
>a game.  If the new folks were there for their first game as the sixth 
>player, then I'd be willing to waive the fee for that first game.  If there 
>was seven at that first game they played, then they pay the fee.
>
>If they show up to a second game, they are committing to the team as a 
>part-time player and pay the ten bucks accordingly, regardless of whether 
>there are only six players at that game or not.
>
>Once they've played at a second game (or been charged for their first, they 
>are free to show up for as many games as they like no matter how many 
>players we have there . . . But are subject to the same fee as any of the 
>part time players who are listed on the roster.
>
>Just my two cents . .
>
>Jeremy
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: offintheshower-bounces
>Sent: 02/15/2006 05:25 PM
>To: offintheshower at lists.kith.ca
>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>
>Okay what I meant by agree with you 100% was refering to the fact that it 
>is better to have enough people to play than to forfit.  If your buddys are 
>coming out because we don't have enough people to play then yes I agree 
>they should play for free, but we don't know ahead of time that we do or 
>don't have enough people to play.  And if they are being asked to come out 
>on a regular basis then what's the difference between then and us? And 
>concidering that the legue fees haven't been paid we are lucky that someone 
>stepped up and was willing to shell out an extra 80$ so we can even have 
>the opportunity to forfit a game.  so what I'm saying is it's not the 
>ringers that are allowing us to play games that we are short people but 
>rather Dan who was willing to go above and beyond his share of the fees.
>
>I guess what we need to do then if we still want our ringer to come out for 
>free and "save the day" then the rest of us that pay legue fees is give Dan 
>another 15$ tonight and hopefully that will cover the rest of the fees 
>owing.
>
>And Paul as far as who I am, maybe you need to get to know the guys you 
>play football with, I've known everyone since day one (when I first met 
>them).  But I haven't been at the last two games cause of midterms and 
>labs.
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Paul Seaman" <paul.seaman at accesscomm.ca>
>>Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>To: "offintheshower" <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:49:08 -0600
>>
>>Farrell,
>>
>>My point was essentially that always being "on the bubble" for the amount 
>>of guys we're going to have makes it important to have the right amount of 
>>players coming out.  For future reference, if that ever happens I am not 
>>going to play with some dudes from the other team.  In Dan's words, I 
>>think there's a middle ground.  I caught an air bag with my head back in 
>>October and wasn't out for football for a few weeks, but in that position 
>>I would welcome someone who was reasonably athletic to come out and take 
>>my place, especially if we're sitting at the 5-7 mark for players showing 
>>up and people tend to forget or be late for games.  Anybody I've brought 
>>out knows we're in this with cash, and they have indicated they are in on 
>>any kegs as well.  Shawn (for example) offered to pay $10 per game, though 
>>it seems kind of strange to ask someone for $10 to play when they're the 
>>6th player and it actually looks like we should be paying them to show up. 
>>  This may be out of context, but when I played college ball, if I had 
>>told Frank McCrystal I was too busy to make a game, he would've told me to 
>>beat it for good.
>>
>>Derek and Shawn are both great guys although Shawn tends to try to run a 
>>few weird ring-dang-doos and hook-and-laddy type stuff which gets 
>>annoying.  I think this is because he thinks he's paying $10 a game and 
>>wants to get his money's worth.  I dunno.
>>
>>Regardless, I will be bringing both Derek and $10 to give to Dan in lieu 
>>of "fees" so that we can put this entire affair behind us and focus on 
>>winning a couple of games and then intoxicating ourselves at a windup.  I 
>>don't think you actually agree with me 100% because the other part of my 
>>point was largely that (for example) I don't remember what you look like.  
>>Introduce yourself the next time you come out.
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "farrell baird" <baird1fa at hotmail.com>
>>To: <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:34 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>>
>>
>>>Paul, I agree with you 100%, but if your friends understand that we are 
>>>all paying to play, then they should assume that they also have to pay, 
>>>that's just fair.
>>>
>>>Yes we sould kick the tar out of the rider fan.
>>>
>>>also keep in mind that I'm out about 80$ from the people who originally 
>>>commited to playing and ordered shirts.  I don't expect to get that money 
>>>back.  but I do expect everyone who plays with us to pay the fees 
>>>associated with playing in this league.
>>>
>>>        'Farrell
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Paul Seaman" <paul.seaman at accesscomm.ca>
>>>>Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>>>To: "offintheshower" <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>>>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:09:23 -0600
>>>>
>>>>Farrell,
>>>>
>>>>We have lost Joel and Jeff to injury and now Kei has moved and I haven't 
>>>>seen Jake in a long time.  Other people have wives, kids, school, work, 
>>>>and other committments, so I think we have some room for replacements. 
>>>>Compounding the problem is the fact that as of late (post-xmas really), 
>>>>we have rarely had 6 players by gametime and generally speaking we can't 
>>>>have our long snap look like a dying quail or our QB will be juggling 
>>>>the ball full time.
>>>>
>>>>Both of the guys I've invited out two or three times do know that our 
>>>>team (well, most of us) paid to play at the EventPlex this year and I am 
>>>>sure at the very least will be paying to come in on a kegger or windup 
>>>>if they're welcome to come.  The $80 shortfall on Dan's part is from two 
>>>>guys who didn't pay their fees to begin with and that's really who my 
>>>>assessment of the situation was directed at.  The key part of my message 
>>>>is that we all know it's Dan's team but I don't think he should be 
>>>>shouldering excessive fiscal duties.
>>>>
>>>>I like to have fun, but I also like to win and I also don't like showing 
>>>>up across town and wondering if we're going to have six players or not. 
>>>>When we don't have enough players show up for games (or the bare 
>>>>minimum), having so-called ringers "leeching" off of the people who 
>>>>can't commit to coming out are really allowing those of us who do show 
>>>>up all the time to play a game and try to play it competitively.
>>>>
>>>>I welcome any comments, but this aside... I think we need to kick the 
>>>>tar out of the riderfans.com team tonight...
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "farrell baird" 
>>>><baird1fa at hotmail.com>
>>>>To: <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 1:40 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I hate to be the one to bring this up but these people who are showing 
>>>>>up and playing (the ringers) are they paying to play, or are they just 
>>>>>leeching off those of us who are paying league fees, and are unable to 
>>>>>attend?  If they are not, then they should be the ones to come up with 
>>>>>the extra 80$ to give dan.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll try to be out tonight, but I have lots of labs due and a midterm 
>>>>>on friday.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Matthew.Vaughan at sasktel.sk.ca
>>>>>>Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>>>>>To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:30:56 -0600
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can guarantee all teams do it in this league.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Matthew Vaughan
>>>>>>eChannel sasktel.com - New Media Designer
>>>>>>777-4687
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              "Mike Hegedus"
>>>>>>              <mikehegedus at hotm
>>>>>>              ail.com> To
>>>>>>              Sent by:                  offintheshower at lists.kith.ca
>>>>>>              offintheshower-bo cc
>>>>>>              unces at lists.kith.
>>>>>>              ca Subject
>>>>>>                                        Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              02/15/2006 01:27
>>>>>>              PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              Please respond to
>>>>>>               offintheshower
>>>>>>              <offintheshower at l
>>>>>>                ists.kith.ca>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then we forfeit the game and play.  Everyone who did pay to be on the
>>>>>>roster agreed to come out and play.  This isn't a park ball game where 
>>>>>>we
>>>>>>can invite friends or friend's of friends; we ARE playing in a league 
>>>>>>even
>>>>>>though most people on our team do not take it seriously or acknowledge
>>>>>>their obligations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Commonly, if a team doesn't have enough player, we borrow players from 
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>other team and play.  It isn't fair, even though we always lose, to 
>>>>>>include
>>>>>>stats from people who don't belong on the team or in the league.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Saying that, I appreciate their commitment and paul's effort.  I'm 
>>>>>>just
>>>>>>outlining rules we're obligated to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From:  Brian.Schmuland at sasktel.sk.ca
>>>>>>  Reply-To:  offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>>>>>  To:  offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>>>>>  Subject:  Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>>>>>>  Date:  Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:20:47 -0600
>>>>>>  >that may be the case, however if we don't have enough people to 
>>>>>>play from
>>>>>>  >our own team, we'll bring some outsiders in to make up the 
>>>>>>difference. I
>>>>>>  >for one do not want to pay the pricey league fees to forfeit our 
>>>>>>games.
>>>>>>  I
>>>>>>  >much rather play.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >Brian Schmuland
>>>>>>  >Marketing Analyst - High Speed Internet
>>>>>>  >11th Floor - 2121 Saskatchewan Dr.
>>>>>>  >PH: 306-777-4227
>>>>>>  >Fax: 306-777-2131
>>>>>>  >E-mail: brian.schmuland at sasktel.sk.ca
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >              "Mike Hegedus"
>>>>>>  >              <mikehegedus at hotm
>>>>>>  >              ail.com>
>>>>>>  To
>>>>>>  >              Sent by:                  
>>>>>>offintheshower at lists.kith.ca
>>>>>>  >              offintheshower-bo
>>>>>>  cc
>>>>>>  >              unces at lists.kith.
>>>>>>  >              ca                                &nb sp;
>>>>>>  Subject
>>>>>>  >                                        Re: [Offintheshower] game 
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >              02/15/2006 01:16
>>>>>>  >              PM
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >              Please respond to
>>>>>>  >               offintheshower
>>>>>>  >              <offintheshower at l
>>>>>>  >                ists.kith.ca>
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >Paul,
>>>>>>  >The only people allowed to play are those that are on the roster 
>>>>>>for our
>>>>>>  >team.  If you invite ringers to play, we have to forfeit the game 
>>>>>>whether
>>>>>>  >we have enough players or not.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >Dan,
>>>>>>  >I'm busy up to 10:30pm tonight; I'll doubt I'll be able to make it
>>>>>>  tonight,
>>>>>>  >but I'll try.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >Mike
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  From: "Paul Seaman" <paul.seaman at accesscomm.ca>
>>>>>>  >  Reply-To: offintheshower <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>>>>>  >  To: "offintheshower" <offintheshower at lists.kith.ca>
>>>>>>  >  Subject: Re: [Offintheshower] game on
>>>>>>  >  Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:38:53 -0600
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  Anybody who's going to be there tonight please reply and just say 
>>>>>>"I'll
>>>>>>  be
>>>>>>  >  there."
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  I can go out and ref tonight if need be.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  I have been bringing out some ringers (Derek in particular, he 
>>>>>>coaches
>>>>>>  a
>>>>>>  >  team at the EventPlex before all of our games).  Usually we have 
>>>>>>just
>>>>>>  >  barely had 6 or 7 guys out so it might be cool for everybody to 
>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>  >  say if you're going to be there.  If not then I can try to track 
>>>>>>down
>>>>>>  some
>>>>>>  >  more ringers so I can make sure that we can at least play.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  I was just talking to Dan, and since the end of the season is 
>>>>>>looming I
>>>>>>  >  thought I'd mention this to everybody since I'm sure Dan won't 
>>>>>>bring it
>>>>>>  up
>>>>>>  >  - last I heard, he's down about $80.  Anybody who still hasn't, 
>>>>>>get
>>>>>>  your
>>>>>>  >  fees in.  When we have our year-end windup/kegger we should 
>>>>>>probably
>>>>>>  also
>>>>>>  >  exempt him from whatever $$$ we end up collecting if he's still 
>>>>>>down
>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>  >  $$$
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  Paul
>>>>>>  >  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>  >  From: Dan Thorson
>>>>>>  >  To: 'offintheshower'
>>>>>>  >  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:57 AM
>>>>>>  >  Subject: [Offintheshower] game on
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  Just a reminder.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  We play tonight at 11 pm.  We need a ref to volunteer to ref at 
>>>>>>10 p.m.
>>>>>>  -
>>>>>>  >  last week nobody showed up to ref and I don't want that happening
>>>>>>  again.
>>>>>>  >  Anyone?
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  Also, we haven't had a good turnout for a while - it would be 
>>>>>>nice to
>>>>>>  get
>>>>>>  >  more than 6 guys out.  How about this - if you are NOT coming 
>>>>>>tonight,
>>>>>>  let
>>>>>>  >  me know.  I will assume everyone who doesn't answer will be 
>>>>>>there.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  We play Riderfans tonight - of all the bad teams in the league 
>>>>>>they
>>>>>>  beat
>>>>>>  >  off in the shower (by) the most.  Redemption is at hand, for the
>>>>>>  >  travelling man.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >  Live Global Bid             Dan Thorson
>>>>>>  >                              Web Developer
>>>>>>  >                              Live Global Bid Inc.
>>>>>>  >                              dan at liveglobalbid.com
>>>>>>  >                              Phone: (306) 584 1383
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
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